Mother Shipton, self fulfilling prophesies en the objectives of Daesh

Door San Daniel gepubliceerd in Verhalen en Poëzie


Lucifal our fellow author, has written a great article about Baba Vanga and it appears she was someone who, just like Nostredamus, had a predictive gift. The problem with predictions is that they are often multi-interpretable ... and so as the British say, "hindsight," is a wonderful thing. That is of course also true, afterwards you reflect on a prediction and you see the truth that it covers. Or you might think that the predicted date has passed and it did not come to pass. But everything has its effect in this world but maybe the conditions have changed slightly between the forecast and the date reality and then there is no longer any reason for it to come true.

A simple example, Winston Churchil the great British leader and opponent of Nazi Germany, worked as a correspondent in South Africa during the Zulu wars. He was badly wounded and he barely survived that time, how would it have fared England if Churchill had died and had never become a political figure in World War II. A simple Zulu spear could thus influence the course of history.

And everything has its effect, we are a symbiosis of events. Like a sneezing ant, has an effect on its environment. As a student at a fairly strict British school, I was unfortunately more philosophical in nature than my physics master, something that was not appreciated. If he saw me frowning or if I considered something, he immediately showered me with sarcasm. "Well now, young Daniel, enlighten us with your deepest thoughts." He was not at all interested in my mental well-being or my deeper thoughts. Anyway, he had said that something a fellow student, Richard, said was nonsensical, just like, he said, "throwing water into the sea, useless without effect." We would say, "it does not contribute, it is a drop in the ocean." Yes and there came the annoying little guy with the frown, who knew that our master's reasoning was not correct and who was angry about the way his friend had been stamped into the ground by someone who stood  just above the subject matter.

"My deeper thoughts are not really interesting, in this context, sir, Mr. Wall," I responded. "Yet I would like you to share our soul agitation with us, "his sharp voice sounded. "Only because you ask me too sir," I replied. "You told Young Richard that his solution was like emptying a bucket of water into the sea. A solution without effect. " I swallowed, because after that, I had to continue. "and I tell you that the effect is there, and I was considering that. It would be difficult to measure, but even a thimble of water would raise the sea level slightly. Although, I was actually considering that you cannot add anything or take anything away from something below the atmosphere because gravity does not allow that and therefore all matter remains trapped in the earthly. " "What are you trying to say, young Daniel, speak clear language in Heaven's name and not in such nonsensical gibberish." "I was thinking whether the water in your bucket or in my thimble had ever gone through the cycle. So evaporated from the sea and precipitated in rain showers and your bucket or thimble filled from the tap in endless repetitions. ' "As a result, I saw the parallel with young Richard's answer that may not seem relevant at first but shows a lot of depth at closer inspection."

"oh we are such a clever little boy today, now .. aren't we," why don't you go see Mr Wonnacot, I have seen enough of you for today. " And if there are more of you  who consider themselves to have elevated to  the status of great thinkers, please join young Daniel on his journey,"  he looked around in a triumphed manner because of his position, but everyone knew he was not right...."

In my life I have learned that even a drop, cools a hot plate, a little, and that is the wonderful idiology that I remembered from the hippie days. Be a free thinker, and even if something seems impossible or absurd when you see the usefulness yourself ... contribute to it.

So we were discussing Baba Vang and the article from the hand of our Lucifal reminded me of a block of old English that I followed, in historical literature. In that block, rhyme predictions were treated by a certain Ursula Southeil (c. 1488–1561), who lived near Leeds, and just as Nostradamus cast his quatrain predictions, Ursula's predictions are also in verse form, turning into literature and a subject for Historical letters.

She was better known as Mother Shipton, she correctly predicted the end of the 100-year war, known as "the war of roses," (the nobles of the Houses of Lancaster and York had a rose on their shield as emblamata. White and opponents a red rose). She predicted the coronation of Queen Elizabeth. It is just wonderful that she was not immediately killed as a witch, she healed people, seems to have looked very ugly, was born in a cave and had a well next to her house, which petrified objects. (I assume that the water there was very calcareous) But the literal text is, a petrifying well, objects hung in it probably became calcefied

She predicted the great fire in London that burned down  two thirds of London and is therefore mentioned in the journals of the great Samuel Pepys who came to record the damage in London for the king and who remembered the prediction of Mother Shipton and saw how it came to be, right to the very neighborhood where the fire started. 



Mother Shipton's house

There are more than 100 prophetic rhymes other than observations that she "sees," and quickly scribbled down. I focused on verses that I can understand or find fascinating.

-A Carriage without a horse shall go;
Disaster fill the world with wo ...
In water iron then shall float,
As easy as a wooden boat.


It is clear that in the 14 hundreds she had never seen a car next to her cave and well, nor a steel boat. Yet she writes that.

a vehicle (carriage) will move on without a horse

Unfortunate times will come and

iron will float just as easily as a wooden ship.

We don't find it strange that ships are made of iron, but that was unthinkable in the 13th century You would have been laughed at if you had suggested something like that. The 19th century saw the first steel boats ...


-Around the world men's thoughts will fly, Quick as the twinkling of an eye. And water shall do great wonders, How strange, and yet it shall come true.

If you had read this in 1950, you would think that the thoughts of humanity fly over the world as fast as the blink of an eye would refer to the telegraph or radio or television. Now in 2019 I read it as internet supplemented with the aforementioned issues.

-Through towering hills proud men shall ride, No horse or ass move by his side. Beneath the water, men shall walk, shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk.

Exactly, the images it evokes .. tower hills, how would you describe a skyscraper in 1480, as something like that I think .. people can stay underwater ... diving cylinders are only something of this last hundred years, the same goes for submarines, right? she says that people can stay underwater and even have contact

-And in the air men shall be seen, in white and black and even green. A great man, shall come and go for prophecy declares it so.

Flying machines and the expectation that a great leader will rise and what to think of  green men, are they soldiers in their green outfits?

-In water, iron then shall float As easy as a wooden boat. Gold shall be seen in stream and stone, In land that is yet unknown.

A country that is unknown where gold lies in streams and in rocks and again the reference to steel ships. Goldrush days California? America was not yet discovered and the gold rush was only past century.

-And roaring monsters with men atop, Does seem to eat the verdant crop. And men shall fly as birds do now, And give away the horse and plow.

Roaring monsters ridden by men seem to eat the harvest, again the reference that people can fly and then the rhyming addition that they give away horses and hand plows. For me this is the mechanization with tractors and combiners.

-A war will follow with the work Where dwells the pagan and the Turk.

A war will break out where the Turks and the Gentiles live. A special mention at a time when distances were great was almost impossible for a fortune teller in Leeds to have known about the Turks.

Many verses then follow about battles of those who kill and rap. Too much to cover in depth in this article.

Interestingly, she makes a very distant prediction, from something silvery that lands, aliens come to mingle with the survivors of the terrible war that has raged and to form a new race.

-And before the race is built anew, A silver serpent comes to view And spew out men or like unknown. To mingle with the earth now grown Cold from its heat and these can Enlighten the minds of future man. To intermingle and show them how To live and love and thus endow The children with the second sight A natural thing so that they might Grow graceful, humble and when they do The Golden Age will start anew.

The last verses are special in that she predicts that she will be burned at the stake and her verses will be found at a later time, she mentions the time and she says by whom .. and yes it may be clear .. after five generations the verses were found. Eventually she says that her verses are real that the insights have been given to her and that if they are found, her soul will be free.

-It's only a sign For mankind's fall and man's decline. And before this prophecy is done I will be burned at the stake, at One. My body singed and my soul set free.
You think I utter blasphemy? You're wrong! These things have come to me THIS PROPHECY WILL COME TO BE!

-I know I go, I know I'm free, I know that this will come to be, Secreted this, for this will be Found by later dynasty.

She describes again how the texts will be found after her death.


-A dairy maid, a bonnie lass, Shall kick this tome as she does pass And five generations she shall be broad Before one male child does learn to read.

A milkmaid will find the texts and they will remain in her family for generations, until in the fifth generation a boy descends, learns to read and understands the texts.

-This is then held  year by year, Till an iron monster, trembling fear, Eats parchment, words and quill and ink, And mankind is given time to think.

In this way an iron sample of paper will be eaten and pen feather and ink will be distributed so that humanity can think.

How much better can you describe a printer or printing press if you've never seen it before.

Baba Vang, Nostradamus, Mother Shipton, fascinating people who have left a legacy. One must ask one self what you to do with such an inheritance. How one will use it. Some people make predictions come true precisely because they have knowledge of the prediction, something you call a self-fulfilling prophesy. For example, in my village there is a clock with a white glass pointer mounted in the facade of the town hall. A farmer in the pub says, for instance, that he dreamed that the clock would not work the next day. Walking into the market I might come across a stall with slingshots, and in an impulse I buy one. In the evening whilst walking across the main square and I doubt whether or not I will break the clock. I put a pebble in the slingshot, pull it out unreal far, I am in doubt again, but then I let go. The farmer's prediction has come true. If I had not heard it, would I have broken the clock?. 'No'.

What the farmer said has become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Daesh, also known as ISIS in the past, has a deterrent effect, that is part of their propaganda, they always kill people in startling ways that we find repulsive, that's why they do that. They are terrorists and they intimidate and they succeed. I'm not going to mention the various ways because every word spent on Daesh is one too many. I use the current affairs of Daesh in my new book that I am writing and have  informed myself fully about their trade and walk.

Lucifall wrote about Baba Vang and her vision about the Muslims who would set up their central government in the Vatican. Not surprisingly, because Spain has also built a cathedral in the Mosque of Cordoba, I how much more can you insult a religion ... and thereby profaned the mosque, so I could expect something like that from Daesh.

In her last propaganda video yesterday, Daesh said the new objective would be to establish the Caliphate in Rome, where the Vatican now stands. That is no coincidence, they use the prior knowledge of the prophecy of Baba Vang (who happens to be in the news). In the hope that there will be despondency with Western people. In the spirit of, resistance is useless, it has been already predicted and then you get the well-known self-fulfilling prophesy. So we must not comply there. However reprehensible Daesh may be, they have, just like Hitler in the past, a lubricated propaganda machine.

The real danger is the fifth column, the people with Arab roots or Muslims who are now moderate and live among us, but suddenly, in the hour of truth, they are less Western than we would have expected.

That's where the real danger lies. People who are not afraid of dying, just like the Japanese Kamikaze pilots, just diving bombing a ship like a living human bomb andsuccesfully sinking it. Now they are not dive bombers or ships, but a bomb belt or cars full of explosives. So what do you do with the predictions? you have to accept them for notification and realize that if you change the preconditions you change the prediction.

For example, an atomic bomb on Raqqa is terrible and destructive. From Raqqa no Daesh person would be left in a caliphate to conquer and walk the floors of the Vatican, because they would have evaporated into oblivion. Oh well, let's just say that many roads lead to Rome.

San Daniel 2019


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06/10/2019 13:08

Reacties (2) 

06/10/2019 21:25
Well...let me think about this for a while.
For the time being I'm afraid Mother Shipton has been consuming amanita muscaria or solanum nigrum.
07/10/2019 00:26
If so .. she was burned at the stake for it
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